#Eu4 espionage guide plus
Poland-Lithuania is so freaking stable (humanist -2% to rebel risk + bonus to religion unity plus they always have military access to each other so with espionage you are really fighting against TWO manpower pools for either) you might as well start WW1 earlier to just break them. Timuruid used to buckle before a certain time period now they are so stable like France plus conquest. 8K Share 170K views 8 months ago In This EU4 England Guide we play BOTH Wide and Tall by taking all the French lands as our own provinces before 1500 as. While Ottoman struggle a little more with the balkan area they still grow at a brisk pace. I find that some certain countries that used to be weak to rebels in 1.7 almost never fall apart in 1.9. Originally posted by Kageryuu:Yeah, but the -20% only come into effect after you already were successful with supporting the rebels, at which point you may just declare a war to support them if you really want. Should I Ever Take Espionage Ideas : r/eu4 by Iamahomelessperson Should I Ever Take Espionage Ideas I have seen videos where people joke about never taking espionage ideas. I dare you to try the same thing with Lithuania now. In 1.7 it used to be possible to force Lithuania to spit out various nations and perhaps even grab some land from poland/hungary in the progress if the rebel manage grow to a certain size. It painful to try to form one of minor Russia accpeted nations from Lithuania (typically they get the idea group with 100% cost to coring which impact diplo-annex cost too) as either Muscovy or formed Russia via Muscovy.
For example if you tried to form Ruthemia or any other nation, not existing at 1444 bookmark, without going to war. I know some part of it got a little out of control but it was still an indirect nerf to Espionage power. Which isn't that useful as before when unrest COULD trigger multiplies group of whatever in a short time frame back in 1.7. You are forced to wait or hit another rebel group for 10 year or whatever how long it last. No I meant the major changes to rebel in both 1.8 and 1.9 hurt Espionage cause with -20% unrest modifier.
#Eu4 espionage guide how to
Esp is outclassed by dip, Inno is outclassed by Adm, Qua is outclassed by Off and Trade is useless to anyone who knows how to use trade companies (which isn't very many people, but still). But once you have the more pressing parts of your realm covered and can spare a diplomat or two to constantly sow discontent, sabotage reputation, and/or support rebels (depending on circumstances) it can be pretty nice. WEEEEEEEEEE But yeah espionage-innovative-quality-trade are the four most overrated idea sets in the game by far.
It has very little direct impact on it's own, so it's a really bad idea to get it early on. Originally posted by Kageryuu:Imo it's fine at what it does, annoying other nations later in the game without any drawback for yourself.
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